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Undoubtedly Jo Jones will be","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://aviary.library.vanderbilt.edu/collections/2137/collection_resources/82843/file/171171#t=2323.67,2328.49"},{"id":"https://aviary.library.vanderbilt.edu/collections/2137/collection_resources/82843/file/171171/transcript/91534/annotation/281","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"heard again almost immediately. It's almost impossible to play a good jazz","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://aviary.library.vanderbilt.edu/collections/2137/collection_resources/82843/file/171171#t=2328.49,2332.45"},{"id":"https://aviary.library.vanderbilt.edu/collections/2137/collection_resources/82843/file/171171/transcript/91534/annotation/282","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"record from the swing era without having some of his spirit and to play a jazz","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://aviary.library.vanderbilt.edu/collections/2137/collection_resources/82843/file/171171#t=2332.45,2337.93"},{"id":"https://aviary.library.vanderbilt.edu/collections/2137/collection_resources/82843/file/171171/transcript/91534/annotation/283","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"record since without having some of his spirit. Often he's actually on the records and playing.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://aviary.library.vanderbilt.edu/collections/2137/collection_resources/82843/file/171171#t=2337.93,2343.04"},{"id":"https://aviary.library.vanderbilt.edu/collections/2137/collection_resources/82843/file/171171/transcript/91534/annotation/284","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So another way of sizing up the entire matter of our Jo Jones presentation, I am on the record as","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://aviary.library.vanderbilt.edu/collections/2137/collection_resources/82843/file/171171#t=2343.04,2352.05"},{"id":"https://aviary.library.vanderbilt.edu/collections/2137/collection_resources/82843/file/171171/transcript/91534/annotation/285","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"saying he's the greatest drummer who ever lived. 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They're giving you an illusion relaxation and most of you who are not","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://aviary.library.vanderbilt.edu/collections/2137/collection_resources/82843/file/171171#t=3123.59,3132.59"},{"id":"https://aviary.library.vanderbilt.edu/collections/2137/collection_resources/82843/file/171171/transcript/91534/annotation/351","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"really trying to suss this out finitely would probably respond to me that this was a slow piece.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://aviary.library.vanderbilt.edu/collections/2137/collection_resources/82843/file/171171#t=3132.59,3141.3"},{"id":"https://aviary.library.vanderbilt.edu/collections/2137/collection_resources/82843/file/171171/transcript/91534/annotation/352","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"It was so laid back and while it's not a flag waving up tempo, it is as they say in the music","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://aviary.library.vanderbilt.edu/collections/2137/collection_resources/82843/file/171171#t=3141.3,3152.96"},{"id":"https://aviary.library.vanderbilt.edu/collections/2137/collection_resources/82843/file/171171/transcript/91534/annotation/353","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"trade pretty bright and I just want to give you that one more point again. 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He would have turned 100 back on October 7th. Go, Lives! That's J-O, by the way.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://aviary.library.vanderbilt.edu/collections/2137/collection_resources/82843/file/171171#t=3408.59,3416.09"},{"id":"https://aviary.library.vanderbilt.edu/collections/2137/collection_resources/82843/file/171171/transcript/91534/annotation/360","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Nothing to do with the drummer who played for Miles Davis. This is Papa Jojo, today's drummer,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://aviary.library.vanderbilt.edu/collections/2137/collection_resources/82843/file/171171#t=3416.09,3426.6"},{"id":"https://aviary.library.vanderbilt.edu/collections/2137/collection_resources/82843/file/171171/transcript/91534/annotation/361","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Lester Young's drummer, Count Basie's drummer. 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This is the third discographical program, consecutive Saturdays. I've also","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://aviary.library.vanderbilt.edu/collections/2137/collection_resources/82843/file/171171#t=5313.31,5320.7"},{"id":"https://aviary.library.vanderbilt.edu/collections/2137/collection_resources/82843/file/171171/transcript/91534/annotation/467","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"been doing Monday Afternoons on Papa Jo, the greatest drummer who ever lived. His records","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://aviary.library.vanderbilt.edu/collections/2137/collection_resources/82843/file/171171#t=5320.7,5326.27"},{"id":"https://aviary.library.vanderbilt.edu/collections/2137/collection_resources/82843/file/171171/transcript/91534/annotation/468","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"is a leader. 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I hope that you will go to my website philschaapjazz.com","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://aviary.library.vanderbilt.edu/collections/2137/collection_resources/82843/file/171171#t=5398.38,5404.68"},{"id":"https://aviary.library.vanderbilt.edu/collections/2137/collection_resources/82843/file/171171/transcript/91534/annotation/482","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That's P H I L S C H A A P J A Z Z Phil Schaap jazz has one word","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://aviary.library.vanderbilt.edu/collections/2137/collection_resources/82843/file/171171#t=5404.68,5414.35"},{"id":"https://aviary.library.vanderbilt.edu/collections/2137/collection_resources/82843/file/171171/transcript/91534/annotation/483","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":".com and your browser should find it","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://aviary.library.vanderbilt.edu/collections/2137/collection_resources/82843/file/171171#t=5414.35,5418.39"},{"id":"https://aviary.library.vanderbilt.edu/collections/2137/collection_resources/82843/file/171171/transcript/91534/annotation/484","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I mean while Phil is somewhat common given name chap is not a frequently encountered surname","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://aviary.library.vanderbilt.edu/collections/2137/collection_resources/82843/file/171171#t=5418.39,5424.91"},{"id":"https://aviary.library.vanderbilt.edu/collections/2137/collection_resources/82843/file/171171/transcript/91534/annotation/485","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And most people steer clear jazz, so I'm Phil Schaap jazz.com p h i l s e h a a p","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://aviary.library.vanderbilt.edu/collections/2137/collection_resources/82843/file/171171#t=5424.91,5432.76"},{"id":"https://aviary.library.vanderbilt.edu/collections/2137/collection_resources/82843/file/171171/transcript/91534/annotation/486","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And I've created a website, or to be more complete, my students and some very recent","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://aviary.library.vanderbilt.edu/collections/2137/collection_resources/82843/file/171171#t=5433.28,5443.63"},{"id":"https://aviary.library.vanderbilt.edu/collections/2137/collection_resources/82843/file/171171/transcript/91534/annotation/487","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"graduates, they're all in their early 20s, and the hero of the whole matter is of course","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://aviary.library.vanderbilt.edu/collections/2137/collection_resources/82843/file/171171#t=5443.63,5449.87"},{"id":"https://aviary.library.vanderbilt.edu/collections/2137/collection_resources/82843/file/171171/transcript/91534/annotation/488","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Ben Heller, but there are many others.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://aviary.library.vanderbilt.edu/collections/2137/collection_resources/82843/file/171171#t=5449.87,5454.76"},{"id":"https://aviary.library.vanderbilt.edu/collections/2137/collection_resources/82843/file/171171/transcript/91534/annotation/489","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"You've heard me call perhaps Rosemary Rutledge's name, Shona Jonathan's, Donna Gasparro.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://aviary.library.vanderbilt.edu/collections/2137/collection_resources/82843/file/171171#t=5454.76,5461.99"},{"id":"https://aviary.library.vanderbilt.edu/collections/2137/collection_resources/82843/file/171171/transcript/91534/annotation/490","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"There's some young talent out there, and if there are another 34,617 just like them, there's","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://aviary.library.vanderbilt.edu/collections/2137/collection_resources/82843/file/171171#t=5461.99,5468.17"},{"id":"https://aviary.library.vanderbilt.edu/collections/2137/collection_resources/82843/file/171171/transcript/91534/annotation/491","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"music will survive. And I mean their age or younger, even unborn. And so they've","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://aviary.library.vanderbilt.edu/collections/2137/collection_resources/82843/file/171171#t=5468.17,5474.35"},{"id":"https://aviary.library.vanderbilt.edu/collections/2137/collection_resources/82843/file/171171/transcript/91534/annotation/492","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"created this website and they are my agents in allowing greater access to the","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://aviary.library.vanderbilt.edu/collections/2137/collection_resources/82843/file/171171#t=5474.35,5481.04"},{"id":"https://aviary.library.vanderbilt.edu/collections/2137/collection_resources/82843/file/171171/transcript/91534/annotation/493","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"music that we here at KCR provide access to. To give it, if not a fair shake, a","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://aviary.library.vanderbilt.edu/collections/2137/collection_resources/82843/file/171171#t=5481.04,5486.58"},{"id":"https://aviary.library.vanderbilt.edu/collections/2137/collection_resources/82843/file/171171/transcript/91534/annotation/494","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"chance, some limited chance of being heard by those I'd like to get to it. Radio","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://aviary.library.vanderbilt.edu/collections/2137/collection_resources/82843/file/171171#t=5486.58,5492.94"},{"id":"https://aviary.library.vanderbilt.edu/collections/2137/collection_resources/82843/file/171171/transcript/91534/annotation/495","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"shows that I've done on this station, it's by nowhere near any any sizable","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://aviary.library.vanderbilt.edu/collections/2137/collection_resources/82843/file/171171#t=5492.94,5498.03"},{"id":"https://aviary.library.vanderbilt.edu/collections/2137/collection_resources/82843/file/171171/transcript/91534/annotation/496","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"percentage of them. On the other hand, there's a lot of hours up there posted on my website","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://aviary.library.vanderbilt.edu/collections/2137/collection_resources/82843/file/171171#t=5498.03,5502.92"},{"id":"https://aviary.library.vanderbilt.edu/collections/2137/collection_resources/82843/file/171171/transcript/91534/annotation/497","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"on the radio archives. And you can listen to them as often as you like and you can listen","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://aviary.library.vanderbilt.edu/collections/2137/collection_resources/82843/file/171171#t=5502.92,5507.73"},{"id":"https://aviary.library.vanderbilt.edu/collections/2137/collection_resources/82843/file/171171/transcript/91534/annotation/498","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"to them on your own schedule. And in doing so, going to my website, p-h-i-l-s-c-h-a-a-p-j-a-z-z.com,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://aviary.library.vanderbilt.edu/collections/2137/collection_resources/82843/file/171171#t=5507.73,5520.92"},{"id":"https://aviary.library.vanderbilt.edu/collections/2137/collection_resources/82843/file/171171/transcript/91534/annotation/499","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"you'll also notice that there are things for sale. Most happy with and think there's the","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://aviary.library.vanderbilt.edu/collections/2137/collection_resources/82843/file/171171#t=5520.92,5528.35"},{"id":"https://aviary.library.vanderbilt.edu/collections/2137/collection_resources/82843/file/171171/transcript/91534/annotation/500","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"most potential with the Jazz at Lincoln Center library editions that I'm editing. 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They're there. If you take a look at them","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://aviary.library.vanderbilt.edu/collections/2137/collection_resources/82843/file/171171#t=5561.7,5570.18"},{"id":"https://aviary.library.vanderbilt.edu/collections/2137/collection_resources/82843/file/171171/transcript/91534/annotation/508","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and you can buy something, you know, the holiday season is, as so many broadcast entities are","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://aviary.library.vanderbilt.edu/collections/2137/collection_resources/82843/file/171171#t=5570.18,5575.69"},{"id":"https://aviary.library.vanderbilt.edu/collections/2137/collection_resources/82843/file/171171/transcript/91534/annotation/509","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"telling you about, you know, it's almost upon us. These are great gift ideas. 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And it's a good way to, or","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://aviary.library.vanderbilt.edu/collections/2137/collection_resources/82843/file/171171#t=5580.09,5585.88"},{"id":"https://aviary.library.vanderbilt.edu/collections/2137/collection_resources/82843/file/171171/transcript/91534/annotation/511","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"it is a way to help me fortify with some remuneration from now and every now and then, and it ain't","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://aviary.library.vanderbilt.edu/collections/2137/collection_resources/82843/file/171171#t=5585.88,5592.83"},{"id":"https://aviary.library.vanderbilt.edu/collections/2137/collection_resources/82843/file/171171/transcript/91534/annotation/512","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Too often, some of these students who contributed their digital age talents to allowing me 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And of course if it's not swinging,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://aviary.library.vanderbilt.edu/collections/2137/collection_resources/82843/file/171171#t=9182.12,9187.71"},{"id":"https://aviary.library.vanderbilt.edu/collections/2137/collection_resources/82843/file/171171/transcript/91534/annotation/899","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"it's not alive. Jo Jones is that thing that means so much. 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Jo spoke in riddles at times and would often emphasize that he was born on water. He didn't say","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://aviary.library.vanderbilt.edu/collections/2137/collection_resources/82843/file/171171#t=9218.75,9228.55"},{"id":"https://aviary.library.vanderbilt.edu/collections/2137/collection_resources/82843/file/171171/transcript/91534/annotation/904","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"he could walk on water, he was born on water. And taking this riddle and I heard it from early","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://aviary.library.vanderbilt.edu/collections/2137/collection_resources/82843/file/171171#t=9228.55,9234.42"},{"id":"https://aviary.library.vanderbilt.edu/collections/2137/collection_resources/82843/file/171171/transcript/91534/annotation/905","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"childhood to my mid 30s. I've come to the conclusion that he was born on a boat,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://aviary.library.vanderbilt.edu/collections/2137/collection_resources/82843/file/171171#t=9234.42,9240.56"},{"id":"https://aviary.library.vanderbilt.edu/collections/2137/collection_resources/82843/file/171171/transcript/91534/annotation/906","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"perhaps on Lake Michigan, as his birthplace is assumed to be Chicago,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://aviary.library.vanderbilt.edu/collections/2137/collection_resources/82843/file/171171#t=9240.56,9245.97"},{"id":"https://aviary.library.vanderbilt.edu/collections/2137/collection_resources/82843/file/171171/transcript/91534/annotation/907","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Illinois, and his passport always stated his birth, Illinois, USA. 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It's certainly not as lengthy,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://aviary.library.vanderbilt.edu/collections/2137/collection_resources/82843/file/171171#t=11381.02,11402.06"},{"id":"https://aviary.library.vanderbilt.edu/collections/2137/collection_resources/82843/file/171171/transcript/91534/annotation/1150","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and I can't believe that's an electric guitar. I think that the miking has","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://aviary.library.vanderbilt.edu/collections/2137/collection_resources/82843/file/171171#t=11402.06,11405.94"},{"id":"https://aviary.library.vanderbilt.edu/collections/2137/collection_resources/82843/file/171171/transcript/91534/annotation/1151","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"allowed it to be heard loud and clear. It's an acoustic guitar, single string, and I","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://aviary.library.vanderbilt.edu/collections/2137/collection_resources/82843/file/171171#t=11405.94,11411.51"},{"id":"https://aviary.library.vanderbilt.edu/collections/2137/collection_resources/82843/file/171171/transcript/91534/annotation/1152","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"guess for all I know on the signature date it's the same thing. You know, Earl","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://aviary.library.vanderbilt.edu/collections/2137/collection_resources/82843/file/171171#t=11411.51,11415.66"},{"id":"https://aviary.library.vanderbilt.edu/collections/2137/collection_resources/82843/file/171171/transcript/91534/annotation/1153","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Warren, he used to hear me out a little more lengthily on these matters. He told","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://aviary.library.vanderbilt.edu/collections/2137/collection_resources/82843/file/171171#t=11415.66,11420.49"},{"id":"https://aviary.library.vanderbilt.edu/collections/2137/collection_resources/82843/file/171171/transcript/91534/annotation/1154","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"me, you know, Freddie, you know, had got an electric guitar, you know, and started","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://aviary.library.vanderbilt.edu/collections/2137/collection_resources/82843/file/171171#t=11420.49,11425.22"},{"id":"https://aviary.library.vanderbilt.edu/collections/2137/collection_resources/82843/file/171171/transcript/91534/annotation/1155","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"fooling around with it. And we finally told him, \"Are you kidding, Freddie, man?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://aviary.library.vanderbilt.edu/collections/2137/collection_resources/82843/file/171171#t=11425.22,11428.36"},{"id":"https://aviary.library.vanderbilt.edu/collections/2137/collection_resources/82843/file/171171/transcript/91534/annotation/1156","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Just be Freddie Green.\" And he got rid of it. He sold it. I wonder if all this is","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://aviary.library.vanderbilt.edu/collections/2137/collection_resources/82843/file/171171#t=11428.36,11435.03"},{"id":"https://aviary.library.vanderbilt.edu/collections/2137/collection_resources/82843/file/171171/transcript/91534/annotation/1157","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"documented here. But what I'm pointing out is that it is Freddie Green on","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://aviary.library.vanderbilt.edu/collections/2137/collection_resources/82843/file/171171#t=11435.03,11438.64"},{"id":"https://aviary.library.vanderbilt.edu/collections/2137/collection_resources/82843/file/171171/transcript/91534/annotation/1158","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\"I'm Furry Too.\" And that Sugar Blues is the smoking gun that proves it. 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